MacroMind matchup data: real ranked games, not opinions
Karma vs Thresh
How often does Karma beat Thresh in Support?
Karma into Thresh in Support: 47% observed win rate across 8,519 ranked games.
Global ranked sample: games from every region and every rank pooled together, not one server's stats. Data runs through patch 26.12; curves updated 2026-08-07.
By 15 minutes the median game has Karma ahead by 61 gold.
Karma at 15:00
- Gold: +61
- CS: -2
- XP: +47
Typical gap to Thresh, from 8,471 games that reached 15:00.
Does Karma counter Thresh?
The count says no. Thresh holds 53% of 8,519 ranked Support games here. The lane is still winnable. Karma wins it back from the spots below, so learn which ones swing it before you lock in Karma against Thresh, and play for those first.
Beating Thresh: the Karma game plan
A gold lead at 10:00 puts Karma at 55% across 4,643 games. Flip the lead and Karma falls to 38% across 3,870.
| The spot | Win rate | Games |
|---|---|---|
| Ahead in gold at 10:00 | 55% | 4,643 |
| Behind in gold at 10:00 | 38% | 3,870 |
| First blood | 53% | 2,592 |
| +kills at 10:00 | 52% | 2,415 |
| +CS at 10:00 | 43% | 2,966 |
| 0 deaths at 10:00 | 57% | 1,993 |
| 0 deaths at 15:00 | 65% | 700 |
Someone usually dies here around 5:45 in the median game, and level 6 lands near 8:40. Until your spike is online, respect the all-in.
Karma's Support build, with receipts
Into Thresh specifically, Karma finishes Moonstone Renewer first most often: 45.5% over 1,625 games of this matchup.
The most-finished core in this exact matchup is Echoes of Helia, Moonstone Renewer, Redemption: 49.1% across 173 games.
The most-finished Karma core is Echoes of Helia, Moonstone Renewer, Redemption: 57.2% across 2,834 games when all three got done. All matchups, patches 26.1-26.12.
Most games start Health Potion + Health Potion; the first finished item is usually Moonstone Renewer (25,890 games).
Skill plan: Karma players max Q first and take Q at level 1.