MacroMind matchup data: real ranked games, not opinions
Zilean vs Karma
Zilean vs Karma in Support: who wins more often?
Across 2,004 ranked games in Support, Zilean beats Karma in 53% of them.
Global ranked sample: games from every region and every rank pooled together, not one server's stats. Data runs through patch 26.12; curves updated 2026-08-07.
By 15 minutes the median game has Zilean behind by 129 gold.
Zilean at 15:00
- Gold: -129
- CS: +1
- XP: +169
Typical gap to Karma, from 1,993 games that reached 15:00.
Does Zilean counter Karma?
On the count, yes. Zilean takes 53% of 2,004 ranked Support games against Karma. Protect the edge: the rows below show what Zilean wins with a gold lead at 10:00, and how far it drops from behind, so trade for that lead early and do not give it back.
Your Zilean game plan against Karma
With a gold lead at 10:00, Zilean wins 62% of 819 games in this matchup. Behind at the same mark, the rate drops to 46% over 1,180.
| The spot | Win rate | Games |
|---|---|---|
| Ahead in gold at 10:00 | 62% | 819 |
| Behind in gold at 10:00 | 46% | 1,180 |
| First blood | 61% | 573 |
| +kills at 10:00 | 58% | 479 |
| +CS at 10:00 | 50% | 1,095 |
| 0 deaths at 10:00 | 59% | 621 |
| 0 deaths at 15:00 | 65% | 291 |
In the median game here, the first death comes near 6:25 and level 6 lands around 8:29. Until your spike is online, treat the all-in window with respect.
Zilean in Support: the items that actually get built
Into Karma specifically, Zilean finishes Shurelya's Battlesong first most often: 52.3% over 528 games of this matchup.
The most-finished Zilean core is Shurelya's Battlesong, Bandlepipes, Imperial Mandate: 58.8% across 740 games when all three got done. All matchups, patches 26.1-26.12.
Most games start Health Potion + Health Potion; the first finished item is usually Shurelya's Battlesong (9,869 games).
Skill plan: Zilean players max Q first and take Q at level 1.