MacroMind matchup data: real ranked games, not opinions
Veigar vs Jhin
How often does Veigar beat Jhin in ADC?
Veigar into Jhin in ADC: 53% observed win rate across 1,315 ranked games.
Global ranked sample: games from every region and every rank pooled together, not one server's stats. Data runs through patch 26.12; curves updated 2026-08-07.
By 15 minutes the median game has Veigar behind by 368 gold.
Veigar at 15:00
- Gold: -368
- CS: -8
- XP: -18
Typical gap to Jhin, from 1,311 games that reached 15:00.
Does Veigar counter Jhin?
No counter here: Veigar sits at 53% over 1,315 games. The swing lives in the spots below, so play the side you know better and chase the row that moves the number the most in this lane, then hold that lead through the first back.
Beating Jhin: the Veigar game plan
A gold lead at 10:00 puts Veigar at 62% across 405 games. Flip the lead and Veigar falls to 48% across 909.
| The spot | Win rate | Games |
|---|---|---|
| Ahead in gold at 10:00 | 62% | 405 |
| Behind in gold at 10:00 | 48% | 909 |
| First blood | 59% | 583 |
| +kills at 10:00 | 64% | 296 |
| +CS at 10:00 | 60% | 358 |
| 0 deaths at 10:00 | 61% | 382 |
| 0 deaths at 15:00 | 67% | 135 |
Someone usually dies here around 7:10 in the median game, and level 6 lands near 7:12. Until your spike is online, respect the all-in.
Veigar's ADC build, with receipts
Into Jhin specifically, Veigar finishes Luden's Echo first most often: 54.7% over 426 games of this matchup.
The most-finished core in this exact matchup is Luden's Echo, Stormsurge, Rabadon's Deathcap: 56.9% across 195 games.
The most-finished Veigar core is Luden's Echo, Stormsurge, Rabadon's Deathcap: 59.3% across 2,227 games when all three got done. All matchups, patches 26.1-26.12.
Most games start Doran's Ring + Health Potion + Health Potion; the first finished item is usually Luden's Echo (5,405 games).
Skill plan: Veigar players max Q first and take Q at level 1.