MacroMind matchup data: real ranked games, not opinions
Karma vs Veigar
How often does Karma beat Veigar in Support?
Karma into Veigar in Support: 59% observed win rate across 239 ranked games.
Global ranked sample: games from every region and every rank pooled together, not one server's stats. Data runs through patch 26.12; curves updated 2026-08-07.
By 15 minutes the median game has Karma behind by 111 gold.
Karma at 15:00
- Gold: -111
- CS: -3
- XP: -66
Typical gap to Veigar, from 238 games that reached 15:00.
Does Karma counter Veigar?
The count says yes: across 239 ranked Support games into Veigar, Karma takes 59%. That edge is worth playing for. Check the rows below to see how much a gold lead at 10:00 adds, and what a bad start costs Karma.
Beating Veigar: the Karma game plan
A gold lead at 10:00 puts Karma at 65% across 114 games. Flip the lead and Karma falls to 54% across 125.
| The spot | Win rate | Games |
|---|---|---|
| Ahead in gold at 10:00 | 65% | 114 |
| Behind in gold at 10:00 | 54% | 125 |
| First blood | 68% | 84 |
| +kills at 10:00 | 65% | 62 |
| +CS at 10:00 | 50% | 90 |
| 0 deaths at 10:00 | 68% | 75 |
Someone usually dies here around 6:40 in the median game, and level 6 lands near 8:26. Until your spike is online, respect the all-in.
Karma's Support build, with receipts
The most-finished Karma core is Echoes of Helia, Moonstone Renewer, Redemption: 57.2% across 2,834 games when all three got done. All matchups, patches 26.1-26.12.
Most games start Health Potion + Health Potion; the first finished item is usually Moonstone Renewer (25,890 games).
Skill plan: Karma players max Q first and take Q at level 1.