MacroMind matchup data — real ranked games, not opinions
Karma vs Elise
Karma vs Elise in Support: who wins more often?
Across 1,046 ranked games in Support, Karma beats Elise in 48% of them. Observed from real matches — the sample size sits next to the rate, here and on every number below.
By 15 minutes the median game has Karma behind by 521 gold.
Does Karma counter Elise?
No counter call here: Karma lands at 48% over 1,046 games, inside the noise band for a sample this size. Neither pick wins the lane on its own — the swing lives in the spots below, so take the side you play better and use the receipts.
Your Karma game plan against Elise
With a 300-gold lead at 10:00, Karma wins 65% of 339 games in this matchup. Down 300 at the same mark, the rate drops to 39% over 707.
| The spot | Win rate | Games |
|---|---|---|
| 300 gold up at 10:00 | 65% | 339 |
| 300 gold down at 10:00 | 39% | 707 |
| First blood | 59% | 300 |
| +kills at 10:00 | 60% | 177 |
| +CS at 10:00 | 46% | 497 |
| 0 deaths at 10:00 | 62% | 242 |
| 0 deaths at 15:00 | 74% | 90 |
In the median game here, the first death comes near 5:19 and level 6 lands around 9:04. Until your spike is online, treat the all-in window with respect.
Karma in Support: the items that actually get built
Into Elise specifically, Karma finishes Moonstone Renewer first most often: 44.4% over 187 games of this matchup.
The most-finished Karma core is Echoes of Helia, Moonstone Renewer, Redemption: 57.2% across 2,834 games when all three got done. All matchups, patches 16.1-16.12.
Most games start Health Potion + Health Potion; the first finished item is usually Moonstone Renewer (25,890 games).
Skill plan: Karma players max Q first and take Q at level 1.