MacroMind matchup guide
Lulu vs Karma
Learn how to play Lulu against Karma in Support. Lane notes paired with a visible 8,448 game sample.
Support guide based on 8,448 ranked games from patch 15.3-16.12.
What to remember
- This matchup revolves around managing Karma's poke superiority while using Lulu's stronger protective toolkit.
- Most early deaths land 2:00-6:00 (61% of them). Play safe there.
- Survive to 6:29 (median first death)
- When Karma's Mantra is on cooldown (40-30 seconds early) she loses her empowered Q, so trade aggressively in that window.
How to Trade
This matchup revolves around managing Karma's poke superiority while using Lulu's stronger protective toolkit. Karma's Mantra-empowered Inner Flame (R+Q) deals significant burst damage and has longer range than Lulu's Glitterlance (Q), meaning Karma will typically win extended poke wars. However, Lulu can mitigate this by using Help, Pix! (E) as a shield to absorb Karma's Q damage, then retaliating with Glitterlance through Pix's position for unexpected angles. Lulu's main trading window is when Karma's Mantra is on cooldown (40-30 seconds early game). Without the empowered Q, Karma's trading potential drops significantly. Track her Mantra usage and look to trade aggressively during this window. Lulu's Whimsy (W) polymorph is extremely valuable if Karma tries to root you with Focused Resolve (W) - polymorphing her breaks the tether and prevents the root from completing. Save your W defensively in this matchup rather than using it for the movement speed buff offensively. Karma posts 9 DPM, which confirms her poke superiority.
Wave Management
Karma wants to shove waves constantly to poke you under tower with her superior range and waveclear from Inner Flame. Counter this by positioning Pix aggressively on the enemy ADC with Help, Pix! (E) - this zones them from the wave while threatening Glitterlance damage. Avoid letting Karma freely auto-attack the wave, as her passive Gathering Fire reduces Mantra's cooldown with each ability and auto-attack hit. When possible, freeze the wave near your tower to limit Karma's poke angles and create gank opportunities for your jungler. Karma is particularly vulnerable to ganks when she uses Mantra+Q aggressively, as she loses her best escape tool (Mantra+E for team-wide shield and movement speed). Communicate with your jungler to capitalize on these windows. If Karma burns Defiance (R+E) to escape a gank, she loses significant teamfight impact for the next 30+ seconds.
Itemization
Start World Atlas and two Health Potions to sustain through Karma's poke. Your first back priority should be completing your support item upgrade and grabbing Boots - the movement speed helps dodge Inner Flame. For your mythic, Moonstone Renewer is optimal in this matchup as it provides sustained healing to counteract Karma's chip damage throughout fights. Consider rushing Mikael's Blessing as a second item if Karma is landing consistent W roots on your ADC - the cleanse active completely negates her pick potential. Staff of Flowing Water synergizes well with your kit and helps your ADC trade back more effectively. If Karma builds Zaz'Zak's Realmspike for extra poke damage, prioritize Redemption for the additional team healing. Avoid building damage-focused items like Imperial Mandate; you won't out-damage Karma, so double down on your enchanter strengths.
Team Fighting
In teamfights, your Wild Growth (R) is significantly more impactful than anything in Karma's kit. While Karma provides team-wide shields and movement speed with Defiance (R+E), your ultimate provides knockup, bonus health, and a slow aura that can completely turn fights. Save Wild Growth for when enemies commit to diving your carries rather than using it preemptively. Your primary teamfight job is protecting your ADC from Karma's root. Keep Whimsy (W) ready to polymorph any diver, but also be prepared to use it on Karma herself if she attempts to Focused Resolve your carry. A well-timed polymorph on Karma during her W channel prevents the root and wastes her cooldown. Position between your ADC and Karma's team to intercept Mantra+Q with your E shield.
Pro Tips
- When Karma's Mantra is on cooldown (40-30 seconds early) she loses her empowered Q, so trade aggressively in that window.
- Cast Help, Pix! (E) on enemy champions to position Pix behind them, then fire Glitterlance (Q) through Pix for unavoidable poke that Karma cannot sidestep.
- If Karma lands Focused Resolve (W) on you, immediately polymorph her with Whimsy (W) - this breaks the tether before the root completes and wastes her cooldown entirely.
Common Mistakes
- Using Whimsy (W) offensively for movement speed on your ADC instead of saving it to interrupt Karma's Focused Resolve root or polymorph divers in fights.
- Standing parallel to your ADC lets Karma's Inner Flame hit both of you at once. Spread out to minimize her AoE damage value.
- Trying to out-poke Karma with Glitterlance - she wins sustained poke wars. Focus on shielding damage and trading only when her Mantra is down.